To cut a long story short, a demo of me was submitted to the UAA some time ago, and it was found clean after all. So I was talking to Decoy, and he said, that Flinka has the authority - in this particular case? - to undo the ban for the HSO server, as he's the one that placed it. I realise, that HSO can do whatever they want, no matter what the UAA say, as it's their server, but I'd like very much to have another chance, if you guys could see it in your hearts.

The name I was using was Genesis, and the ban was placed about 2 weeks ago.

pfff whiner

I have watched 2 demos of you, and from what Ive heard, there are more demos of you out there. I personally dont understand how the UAA could find you clean. But its their decision.
Another thing though, is that if people in a certain clan (with certain servers) do not trust a person, I think we are entitled to make our own decision and keep the ban on him/her.
There are lots of servers out there to play on! (Unless you got banned there too..?) So why is this so important?

Sorry but the ban still stands even if you wernt found guilty by the uaa. We dont have to explain why as its our server and we may do as we please but this is not a decision made by 1 person in the clan but by the majority of members and various outside players who's opinions are appreciated. The demo's we have our very suspicious in our opinion and we like to run clean and fair servers for all the regular players there. There are plenty more servers out there for you to play on so i,d suggest forgetting about the HSO servers as the ban will not be lifted.

Hey there Genesis,

As you can see by my clan members remarks there is a big difference in oppinion here. I think in the main part because people who have spec you in the past and maybe unfortunate enough not to have a demo for what ever reason, may have seen more than the "proof" shows. In these cases it is normaly the result that it becomes the "banned" against "hso" kind of saga, where HSO is made out to be the vilin by method of "But the Uaa, X, Y and Z all dont think i hack, you noobs, unban me."

In HSO we have a member vote on all ban cases, we dicuss it as a clan, and even is the UAA clear something, it is not guarenteed that you will be allowed back. Don't get me wrong, myself I have put the ban stick in to hastily and paid the price. However, with this one, the clan simply feels that our opinion is for the ban to remain in place. Our war server does not conform to the regular ban list and only bans those which are banned by the UAA, so from a "Your Clan" v HSO standpoint, we are happy to except the office "community" rule on compition here. As for our Public Servers, you are on the perm ban list and unlikely to unbanned at all.

This is Clan HSO's ruling on the matter after much disscusion and voting, we consider the matter closed and not up for apeal.

Kind Regards,

RaideR

What exactly is it about my playing, that seems to be so unclean? As stated earlier, I understand and accept that you can do what you want on your server, but I'd really like to know what I did to offend you guys. I'm not appealing the ban itself, I'd just like some input. Also, I'm curious to see these 'other demos' that everyone's talking about. I hope that's not an unreasonable request.

Ok, Genesis, I will ask you a question in my bad english, and I hope you will understand it.

Why do you want play on HSO servers?

There is plenty of other pub servers out there, just go and play there, and forget about us.

And yes I admit that I think you were cheating that evening.
And I don't care about UAA or anyone else, I just don't want to see you on our pub server.

Well I said what I have to say.

I will not reply to you or to this post again

Wow somehow i missed the drama.

Just for the record, i voted on this guys demo. And i voted it clean. Although he almost seems to be admitting guilt by begging for forgiveness.
Just wanted to add that i have LOTS of demos of HSO members that are way more suspicious then this guys demo. Mia, Recoil, Marge. the list goes on and on.

So you need to remember everyone sees something different. And i question anyones ability to fairly judge a demo that found (the one i voted on anyway) guilty. You dont see me running Mia or recoil up the flagpole.

Its your server. But becareful of locking yourself from the outside world, eventually people forget your there.

Hippie

Thanks for the advice Hippie. Unfortuntely Genesis playing on our public servers has raised a lot of resistance within the clan and as a united front we decided that we do not want that kind of discussion, after all we all want to have some fun. This is unfortunate for Genesis, but this is the way it is at the moment and I think the best way to deal with it at the moment is give it a rest. Maybe in 3 or 6 months from now we will come around, but keep raising it at the moment only raises more resistance and less good.

anyone know why banana's are bend?

The reason I like playing on your server, is because there's always an admin around to take care of things. Sure there's loads of servers out there, but many of them are poorly taken care of, compared to yours. And yes, maybe I'm brownnosing but it's true - every time I played on HSO there was someone (with autority) there.

I will drop the topic, and I don't have any hard feelings towards you guys in any way. I totally understand that it's what's best for the server, and if it's what you as a clan want, then I accept it.

PS.: Hippie - Thanks for the defense, I appreciate it, although I'm not exactly sure why I'm admitting guilt by asking to be allowed back on their server.

PPS.: Decoy - I'll answer it in German: Weil Niemand in den Urwald flog, und sie wieder gerade bog.

lol

i'll explain in Dutch then

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explanation: "if they were straight, they would fall over".

Thank you Hippie for your input on the matter. Rest assured that HSO allways respect the UAA's take on demo voting, this is good news, since it will not be a problem for gen in matches and for us to play against him.

Also to Gen, thanks for your kind words, i believe they are sincear and makes perfect sense to me why you enjoy our servers.

However, this asside, the clan policy on this is clear, if our "family" wish not to have someone around for what ever reason, then this is the vote important to us. Sometimes we admit this is not allways nice for the people on the recieving end. Now that the UAA concider the demos clean at this stage, we are happy to accept the decision. But the HSO Server ban was put in place and will remain as such.

We at HSO try to make an environment where our members can game with who they want to game with, thier are allways cases like this, its not just an HSO thing, but this is why we are the way we are, and thus this situation.

youve got to stop smoking that sh*t man.
lol

Well hello every one , sorry not been on had probs with password again. Well seems this subject is on peeps cheating hacks etc. I know Im not a Active player on the HSO circuit but I would like to point out one thing to moking skillz with (my I say our clan) I have had the pleasure of playing with hso peeps and peepesses and never met a more clean friendly group in all my time.
I my self wouldnt now where or how to get a hack . I cant even remember my log in password with out post it stickers. long live the ban lists life is life. If in doubt dont use them . the games far better with out. Its not the winning its the taking part. now go and have fun!!
Margie..Kylie..turkey*teeth

Well said margie!
And nice to see you on here again

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Proper bring out your dead style.